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片名：青年特尔勒斯
YOUNG TOERLESS
根据罗伯特.穆希尔同名小说改编
BASED ON THE NOVEL BY ROBERT MUSIL
主演：旁德.迪斯切尔 弗里德.戴兹
主演：罗特.里德尔 简.劳莱
Cinematography by FRANZ RATH
编导：沃尔克.舒伦多夫
WRITTEN AND DIRECTED BY
贝尼博格 麻烦照顾我儿子
Beineberg, please keep an eye on my son.
先生 你大可以放心
You can count on me, sir.
没事 我相信你
Thas a relief. I trust you.
你的执着 执着的性格我信任 要雪茄吗？
Something solid and decisive about you won me over instantly. Cigar?
谢谢你 先生
Thank you, sir.
我希望我的儿子能够更像你
I wish my boy were more like you.
他看起来他不安全了 不能把握自己
He always seems so insecure, so unbalanced.
我都不知道他会怎么样
I have no idea what he'll amount to.
很高兴终于都见到你们了
I'm glad to have met you all.
我们儿子和你们在一起我放心
And knowing our son is with you makes saying good-bye easier.
特别是从发现了这么多好同志之后
Especially since he's found such good comrades.
先生 要是我儿子 出了什么事 请马上联系我们
Gentlemen, please contact us immediately should anything happen to my son.
爸爸 会发生什么事？
What could happen, Dad?
你明白吗 贝尼博格先生？
You understand, Mr. Beineberg?
当然
Absolutely, sir.
孩子
My child.
我还能做别的什么？
What else could I do?
他和她睡觉 第二天早上她带他去海滩
He sleeps with her, and the next morning she takes him ashore.
过了一会儿 他就再也吃不了鱼
But after a while, he couldn't eat fish anymore... -
白痴 小心！ 别烦我
- Watch it, idiot! - Leave me alone.
你在这里干什么？
What are you hoodlums doing here?
拿一个走开
Go ahead, take one.
好烫！ 过来 亲爱的
- Man, they're hot! - Come here, my dear.
给 孩子 谢谢你 漂亮的夫人
- Here, my boy. - Thank you, pretty lady.
上帝保佑你 孩子
God be with you, child.
别这么吊儿郎当
Stop fooling around.
嗨 美女
Hi, sweetheart.
是不是小男孩就会恩念家乡？
Is our little boy homesick?
先生们 请和我们坐在一起
Ah, the young gentlemen. Come and sit with us.
要喝什么？ 酒 四杯
- Something to drink? - Wine. Four glasses.
不 八杯 这一次我请
No, eight. This rounďs on me.
谢谢
Thank you.
你们要玩吗 会不会怕输？
Would you gentlemen like to play, or are you afraid of losing?
我下20
Here. I'll bet 20.
你输了 我的运气差 这就是生活
- You lose. - My tough luck. C'est la vie.
服役期
DAYS SERVED
Yet another day to tell our grandchildren about.
将来某一天我们的孙子能够看见
Whas that, Toerless?
什么事 特尔勒斯？
Well?
没有？
I meant this was another memorable day for us.
他说这又是我们值得记忆的一天
Since it wasn't exciting enough for you...
既然你们觉得不够刺激
you'll copy out Horace's sixth ode for tomorrow.
那你们明天就给我抄贺瑞斯的第六颂诗
Reiting, I was supposed to pay you back today,
雷廷 我本来今天要还给你
but could you give me a couple more days?
你能不能再等几天？
Sorry. I need the money now.
对不起 我现在需要钱
Didn't you receive your allowance?
你没有拿到津贴？
Sure, but I've got other debts too.
拿了 但是我有别的债要还
I owe Beineberg and Tschusch from last month.
我上个月就欠特奇斯奇和贝尼博格
Go begging to them. I'm not one to wait in line.
去求他们 我可不是排队等的人
Of course not. You're my friend.
当然不是 你是我朋友
You shouldn't have gambled away the money.
你不应该把欠赌输了
I wanted to double it.
我想翻倍啊
My last word on this subject:
我最后的话是：
Pay me back tomorrow or... -
明天还给我 否则...
Or?
否则？
Or you'll be subject to my terms.
那你就要按我的条件做
What sort of terms?
什么条件？
You give me your allegiance in everything I do.
绝对服从我
If thas all, I'll do it gladly.
要真这样 我很愿意
I'll stick by you.
我绝对听从你
But not just when you feel like it.
那由不得你愿意不愿意
You must do whatever I say.
我说什么你必须做什么
Blind obedience, as it were.
就是盲目服从
Well?
怎么样？
I'll bring you the money tomorrow.
明天我把钱还给你
Quiet, please.
安静
"Eight-year sentence for murderess.
被判八年谋杀罪
Wilhelmina worked in a coffee house in Graz until she was 19.
威廉敏娜从19岁开始 就在格拉兹一家咖啡屋做事
Then she met Guenther K., an army deserter,
后来认识了巩特尔 一个逃兵
who introduced her to prostitution
这个人介绍她卖淫
and made her work for him.
让她为他做事
Asked by the judge why she had done it,
被法官追问她如此做的原因的时候
she replied, 'Because I was under his spell.
她说：“因为我被他迷住了”
That night, when Guenther took me to the Wiener Strasse to work,
那天晚上 巩特尔带我去维也纳做事的时候
I said, "I don't feel like it today."
我说：“今天我不想”
Guenther then said, "Then sleep with me."
巩特尔说 “那跟我睡觉”
I didn't want that either.
我也不想
I resisted, so Guenther beat me up and was really angry.
我反抗 巩特尔就打我 非常生气
Then I had to kneel down before him
那样我必须跪在他面前
and worship him like a god so he'd be good.
把他当神崇拜 这样他才平息下来
That night, I shot him in bed.'
那天晚上 我开枪把他打死在床上
Gross Sankt Florian:
格罗斯.桑克.甫洛莱恩：
One of the oldest parishioners, retiree Franz Braunecker,
弗朗兹.布兰尼克 教区最年老的退休的人
was unexpectedly called from this mortal life at the age of 91."
接到91岁的人临终的电话
Miss, bring us two orders of venison,
给我们来两盘鹿肉
coffee cake and slivovitz.
咖啡饼 还有梅子 白兰地
How much time do we have?
我们有多少时间？
Two and a half hours.
两个半小时
Whas for dinner tonight?
今晚吃什么？
Beats me. Some Sunday swill, I'm sure.
我看 还是周日那样
Tell me, Beineberg: What do you want to be?
告诉我 贝尼博格 你想做什么？
I don't know.
不知道
But I won't be a civil servant or officer, thas for sure.
但是我不想做政府官员或者是军官
First I'd like to travel around and earn a little money
首先我要旅游 然后赚钱
without committing myself to a profession.
在没有和我的专业有冲突的情况下
Then maybe I'll go to India or Asia.
那么我可能去印度和亚洲
I've got a few ideas.
我有很多种想法
I have no clue myself.
我自己都没有个底
Don't know what I'm good at or what I'd enjoy doing.
不知道我擅长什么 喜欢做什么
I feel I know myself and the world less every day.
我觉得我自己 整个世界 每天都在变小
Because you're a nutcase.
因为你是疯子
Often I just want to run away.
我常常想逃跑
But you'll never do it.
可我不会
You hightailing it!
你是在逃避这想法
Thad be the day.
日子不好过
The monotony here is killing me.
这单调的生活会烦死我
Of all that we do in school, what makes any sense?
我们在学校做的这些事 有什么意义？
Where does it get us?
我们怎么会招上的？
We're here to develop our minds and prepare ourselves.
我们在这里是开发智力 为自己做准备
We'll live later.
我们以后会生活好
Prepare? Develop? What for?
准备？开发？为什么？
Here you are.
好了
Where did you get the money?
你哪里来的钱？
I borrowed it.
借的
Who was stupid enough to lend you money?
谁那么蠢 借钱给你？
Hoffmeier.
霍梅尔
Look, Basini, why lie to me?
巴西尼 你干嘛骗我？
Maybe you can pull that with others, but not me.
你也许能瞒过别人 但是瞒不过我
Hoffmeier himself asked me for money this morning.
霍梅尔他自己早上都向我借钱
But Beineberg complained his money had been stolen.
但是贝尼博格早上说丢了钱
In a nutshell, you took the money from Beineberg's drawer last night.
昨晚你从贝尼博格的抽屉里拿了钱
How dare you say that!
你怎么敢这么说！
What a nasty thing to say! Thas vile slander!
这么侮辱人的事你也敢说！这是诬陷
You're just picking on me because I'm weaker.
你因为我软弱所以欺负我
You're angry because I won't grovel.
你生气是因为我太屈服你
You want to blackmail me,
你想敲诈我
but you picked the wrong guy!
可惜你找错人了
I'll tell the whole class of your accusation.
我要告诉你班上所有的人
I'll go the principal.
我去找校长
Les go. Is on me.
走 这事交给我
谢谢 尤其是自我昨晚钱被人偷走后
Thanks. Especially since my money was stolen last night.
真的？知道是谁吗？
Really? Any suspects?
还不知道 不过让我抓到他就惨了
No, not yet. But he'll be sorry if I catch him.
我这样做只是因为有这个必要
I only did it because I was in need.
我会送还回去的
I woulďve put it right back.
不要告诉任何人是我偷的
Please don't tell anyone I stole it.
我只是暂时借借 我会...
I just borrowed it in secret. I'll... -
你说什么我都答应 只是不要让班上的人知道
I'll do anything you say. Just don't let the class know.
不要告诉他们
Don't tell them.
那你接受了我的条件？
So you'll accept my conditions?
是的 你说什么我做什么
Yes. I'll do what you say.
好 我会好好考虑的
Good. I'll think it over.
现在去哪？伯兹纳家？
Where to now? Bozena's?
是的 这是我们商量好的
Yeah, thas what we agreed.
你不想付钱是吧？
You don't want to pay, eh?
快给我滚 你这个猪
Get the hell out of here, you swine,
否则我揍你！ 我会把你撕成碎片！
or I'll deck you! I'll tear you to shreds!
这个无赖爽够了却不给钱！
The dirty scoundrels want a good time but don't want to pay!
怎么回事？
Whas going on here?
晚上好
Good evening.
哪来的好心男孩来关照我了？
What sweet boys have come to see me?
拜托 小声点
Come on, be quiet.
坐吧
Have a seat.
你们来实在是太好了
Nice of you to visit me.
刚才那个家伙带你们来的吗？
Or did the man in you bring you here?
小声点
Ah, be quiet.
你们真是好小伙
What fine lads you are.
别害羞
Don't be shy, boy.
好好看看
Take a good look.
你的朋友好像从来没见过女人似的
Your friend acts like he's never seen a woman in his life.
他母亲是个非常好的女人
His mother is quite a stunning woman.
我最近在火车站看到过她
I saw her recently at the train station.
我相信她年轻的时候一定有不少人追求
I'm sure she turned many a head in her younger days.
你还有梅子白兰地吗？
Do you still have some slivovitz?
你知道东西放哪
You know where things are here.
谢谢
Thank you.
为什么拉着张脸？
Why that bored look?
-她会认为你害怕了 -管她呢
She'll think you're afraid. - Let her.
我心情不好
I'm not in the mood anyway.
你不泄恨我谈论你母亲？
You don't like me talking about your mother?
你们一直认为比我们高等
You people always think you're better than us.
你认为你母亲与我不同 是吧？
You don't think your mother and I are alike, huh?
你认为你比他好得了多少？
You think you're better than that?
你错了
You're wrong.
大错特错
Terribly wrong.
我知道你的家人比那些人要好
I know your families better than that.
我在维也纳住了很长的时间 我知道那里的情况
I spent enough time in Vienna. I know what goes on there.
我亲爱的伯兹纳长 我亲爱的伯兹纳短的
"My dear Bozena" here, "my dear Bozena" there.
他们对我一直很好
They were always very nice to me.
直到他们注意到我怀孕了
Until they noticed I was pregnant.
你应该听过他们的闲言碎语
You should have heard them talk.
当然不是当着我的面说
Not to my face, of course,
但是他们还能说什么呢？
but among themselves they spoke of nothing else.
还有太太...
And Madam... -
她拉着一张脸 就好像她只喝古龙水一样
She wore an expression as if she drank nothing but cologne.
不过不久后 她堂妹的肚子 在她眼皮子底下大了起来
But soon after that, her cousin's belly swelled out past her nose.
没人知道孩子的父亲是谁？
And did anybody know that baby's father?
是的
No.
幸好
Just as well.
我离开了
I left for his sake.
我不想回去 我宁愿死也不再回那工作
I don't want to go back. I'd rather die than work there again.
这是你的？
Is this yours?
谢谢 你真好
Thank you. Nice of you.
有时我都奇怪自己为什么让你们进来
Sometimes I wonder why I let you guys in.
当然不是为了几个臭钱
Certainly not for a couple kronen.
你和他 还有其他人
You and him and the other one.
他叫什么名字？
Whas his name?
雷廷？
Reiting?
不 不是
No, not him.
巴西尼？
Basini?
是的 巴西尼 我就是说他嘛
Yeah, Basini. Thas who I meant.
他是个奇怪的男孩
He's a strange boy.
你们都一样 你们是一丘之貉
You're all the same. You belong together.
你们父母在场的时候
When your parents are around,
你们就假装不认识我
you don't know me.
一旦他们离开
As soon as they're gone,
你们就会蹑手蹑脚地跟在我后面
you sneak right back to me.
你就像你的父母
You're just like your parents.
伪善者...
Hypocrites...
懦夫 骗子
cowards and liars.
你的鼻子在哪弄破的？
Where'd you get the broken nose?
你知道你让我想起了谁吗？
You know who you remind me of?
我的弟弟 我打破了他的鼻子
My brother. I broke his nose.
鼻子破了的人的长相滑稽极了
Is funny how much better a man looks with a broken nose.
那个男孩怎么啦？
Whas wrong with that boy?
恩乡病
Homesick.
可怜的孩子
Poor boy.
那个顽皮的孩子是来找我这样的人吗？
And the naughty little boy comes running to someone like me?
怎么啦？
Well, what is it?
给我一个吻
Give me a kiss.
瞧见没？
See?
你还是有反应的
You're still alive.
这比在你们宿舍自慰好多了
And is better than what you do in your dorms.
我抓到他了 -谁？
- I've got him. - Who?
那个偷贝尼博格钱的人 -告诉我！
- The thief who stole from Beineberg. - Tell me!
现在还没人知道
Nobody knows yet.
打杂的人？ -不是
- A servant? - No.
提示一下吧
Give me a hint.
巴西尼？
Basini?
怎么啦？
Whas wrong?
当心！
Be careful!
这是你的钱
Here's your money.
这是巴西尼撬开柜子的小刀
And here's the knife Basini broke into the closet with.
你认为我们应该怎么处置他？
What do you think we should do with him?
巴西尼是个小偷
Basini is a thief.
是的 小偷！
Yes, a thief!
小偷在世界各地都应该受到惩罚
And thieves are punished all over the world.
我们要举报他 让学校开除他
He must be reported and expelled from school.
让他自生自灭 这里不属于他
Let him fend for himself out in the world. He doesn't belong here anymore.
不 为什么要这么草率？
No. Why rush to extremes?
没有那么严重
Is not all that bad.
你怎么可以这样说话？
How can you say that?
你想和小偷一起生活？
You want to go on living with someone who's stolen?
给你服务的人难道就是奴仆？
Someone who's offered to be your slave?
你是不是太夸张了点？
Aren't you exaggerating a bit?
我们发誓过要一生保持兄弟关系
You act like we're sworn to brotherhood for life.
我们和巴西尼没有什么关系
Nothing ties us to Basini,
不过可以从他那里获得不少乐趣
except that a lot of pleasure could be had from him.
乐趣？
Pleasure?
听着 雷廷
Look, Reiting.
你为什么要一直维护巴西尼？
Why do you keep standing up for Basini?
维护他？
Standing up for him?
这是什么意恩？
Is that how it looks?
不知道
I don't know.
再说一次 你太夸张了
Again, a gross exaggeration.
这是怎么说？
Whas with this idealism?
为了维护学院纯洁的这种热心
This enthusiasm for the purity of the institute.
非常的有道德也非常的无聊
Is so virtuous and so boring.
那你有什么特别的理由吗？
Or do you have some special reason?
因为宿怨 你想让巴西尼开除？
Some old grudge for which you want Basini expelled?
那就这么办了
Then come clean with it.
我们站在你这边
We're on your side.
废话
Nonsense.
你认为呢？
What do you think?
你们想怎么处置他就怎么处置
I say do what you want with him.
在印第安 他们会砍掉他的手
In India they'd cut his hand off
或者用锋利的树枝刺穿他的肚子
or drive a sharp stake up his bowels.
至少那是种消遣
At least that would be amusing.
伸出手来
Hold out your hands.
是用哪只手偷的？
Which hand did you steal with?
我们决定这次不举报你
We've decided not to report you... this time.
你会处于我们的监督之下
You'll be under our supervision,
你还有机会改过自新
and you'll have the chance to reform.
从现在开始 我们会严格细查你的开支
From now on, we will strictly scrutinize your income and expenses.
与班上其他人的交往要得到我们的允许
Dealings with the rest of the class will be subject to our consent.
同意吗？
Do you agree?
现在同意了吗？
Do you agree now?
同意
Yes.
请安静！
Quiet, please!
小伙子们 有信来了
Mail call, boys.
坎尼兹
Canitz.
巴西尼！
Basini!
是我的达茜妮亚写来的
From my Dulcinea.
你会明白的
Now you'll see.
我保证过很多吗？
Did I promise too much?
你本该看看她的胸衣
You should have seen her corset.
那个我当然不能带来
I couldn't take that, of course.
价格标签还在上面呢
The price tag's still on it.
你刚买的 卖弄玄虚！
You just bought it, you show-off.
你都明白了吗？ -什么？
- Did you get all that? - What?
那些虚数
Those imaginary numbers.
非常简单啊
Is very simple.
只要记住它是居于负的平方根就行
Just remember they're based on the square root of minus one.
没错 不过问题就出在那
Yeah, but thas the problem.
那个数字根本不存在
That doesn't exist.
一个数字的平方是绝对的
The square of a number is always positive.
只有一个方法来计算这些数字
Is just a way of calculating these numbers.
不过从数学概念方面 你怎么知道...
But how can you, when you know for certain mathematically
那是不可能的？
that is impossible?
问题就在于...
The peculiar thing is that
你可以考虑这些假象的价值
you can actually calculate with these imaginary values.
举例来说 你可以使用 这种公式来建造一座桥梁
For example, you can build a bridge using this kind of formula,
坚固的那种
one that stands firm,
即使它是那种根本不存在的东西
even though it was calculated using something that doesn't even exist.
在我们的现实中有这样的空白吗？
Is there a gap in our reality?
你的口气像是我们的传教士
You sound like that Holy Joe of ours.
人之间的那种巨大分歧
The chasm between the body,
是事实造成的
which is made of matter,
它形象地体现了出来
and that which it embodies,
也就是 不朽的灵魂
namely, the immortal soul.
去问我们的数学老师吧
Go ask our math teacher.
你想知道无理数和虚数？
You want to know about irrational and imaginary numbers?
请坐
Please have a seat.
特尔勒斯 我非常高兴
I'm glad, Toerless, very glad.
你的疑虑暴露了一种严重的无党派恩想
Your doubts reveal a strain of serious independent thought.
不过 让你明白也并非是易事
But is not so easy to give the clarification you seek.
请不要让我误解
Please don't get me wrong.
要不要来一支？ -不 谢谢了
- Would you like one too? - No, thanks.
吃颗糖吧？
How about a candy?
听着
Look.
你提到的那种
You spoke of the intervention
形而上学的因素
of transcendental factors.
我不知道你是怎么恩索的
I don't know how you feel about this.
那种超自然的 超出严格范围的
The supernatural, that which is beyond the strict bounds of reason,
是非常罕见的特例
is a very peculiar thing.
我真的没有资格来向你提供这些事实
I'm really not qualified to hold forth on these matters.
这个问题不属于我的课程之列 你可以通过不同的方式去看待它
That material's not covered in my course. You can view it different ways.
我当然希望能避免有人提出异问
I certainly want to avoid undercutting someone else's position.
不过你应该可以为我解释这个数学问题
But you should be able to explain mathematics for me.
是的 只要是和数学有关的东西
Yes, as far as mathematics is concerned,
自然的纯数学的环境确实存在
a natural and purely mathematical context does indeed exist.
不过作为一个优秀的科学家 我必须使用假设
But as a good scientist, I'd have to use hypotheses
这点你可能还不会明白
that you would probably not yet understand.
我们也没有那个时间
And then, too, we don't have the time.
那虚数呢？
And imaginary numbers?
你必须习惯那种数学概念
You must get used to the idea that such mathematical concepts,
完全不存在的价值
entirely nonexistent values,
对于数学而言 纯粹想象的概念是必需的
are purely notional concepts necessary to mathematics.
好好想想看：
Think about it:
在你提出的这个重要问题上
At the elementary stage of your present instruction,
很难提供一种全面的解释
is difficult to provide a comprehensive explanation.
不幸的是 很少人认为它是必需的
Fortunately, very few feel the need for it.
可是 有人和你一样... 正如我所说 我非常高兴...
However, when someone like yourself... - and, as I said, I'm very glad... -
来找我 我只能说
comes to me, I can only say,
我亲爱的朋友
"My dear friend,
你必须相信它
you must simply believe.
当你有十次超过数学意义去考虑它时
When you know ten times more math than you know now,
你就会明白的
then you'll understand it.
不过同时 要有信仰
But in the meantime, just have faith.
任何事情都是种感觉
Everything is about feeling,
哪怕是数学
even mathematics."
摆脱疑云了？
Always off in the clouds, eh?
你在这做什么？
What are you doing here?
跟我来 你会明白的
Come along. You'll see.
怎么回事？ -等等
- Whas going on? - Wait.
我们伟大的数学家怎么啦？
How's our great mathematician?
你认为呢？ -明白了
- How do you think? - I get it.
明白什么？
What do you get?
他什么也没有告诉你
He didn't tell you anything.
他拿以后搪塞你
He put you off till later.
以后你会明白的
Then you'll understand.
一切都会自然而通的
The scales will fall from your eyes.
等你到达他们那个水平的时候
When they've "prepared" you down to their level.
想不到你会这样说
I don't think you can say that.
你不必告诉我什么
You needn't tell me anything.
我了解这些人 脑袋中全是公式
I know these people, stuffed full of formulas
他们只会死记硬背 就像那些牧师学习教义问答手册一样
they learned by rote just like the priest learns his catechism.
你认为幸运女神会对这些无聊的人...
Or do you think the world spirit would give these bloodless creatures
抛媚眼吗？
a peek under her skirts?
他说要监视巴西尼
He calls that watching over Basini.
怎么回事？
Whas going on?
今晚到教室来
Come to the room tonight.
雷廷骗了我们 -我想也是
- Reiting tricked us. - I thought as much.
你也这样认为？
Oh, you thought, did you?
不过 当然 你没有注意到
But you didn't notice it, of course.
是的
No, not at all.
不过我看得非常仔细
But I was watching closely.
你还记得4年前发生在这里的事吗？
You remember the story about what happened here four years ago?
什么事？ -你知道的
- What story? - You know.
就是那个故事 -原来如此
That story. - Oh, right.
只是顺便提起
Only in passing.
我只知道是某种有关猥亵的丑闻
I only know there was a huge scandal over some obscenity
很多人都被开除了
and a whole lot of them were expelled.
这就是我所考虑的
Thas what I'm talking about.
雷廷正在和巴西尼做同样的事
Reiting's doing the exact same thing with Basini.
你认为雷廷喜欢他？
You think Reiting is in love with him?
当然不是
Of course not.
雷廷不是笨蛋
Reiting's no fool.
不过他可能只是寻求快感
But it probably amuses him.
我从未怀疑过雷廷会有这样的嗜好
I never would have suspected Reiting of that.
我要让他们倆看看
Well, I'll show them both.
你有什么办法？
What do you have in mind?
我要用其他人的教训来提醒他们
I'll remind them of the others who were thrown out for it.
那会让他们倆好好反恩
Thall give them a little food for thought.
不过你不能举报他们
But you can't report them.
我当然不会
And I don't want to.
我是说 我并不在乎巴西尼
I mean, I don't care about Basini.
不过对雷廷就不同了
But is different with Reiting.
我不会让他毁在我手中
And what he's done puts him completely in my hands.
如果他能明白我的苦心那就最好不过了
I think he'd be happy if he could get me somehow.
在我知道秘密的情况下 看我会怎么做
See what I can do now that I know this secret?
好的 不过...
Sure, but... -
听我一句
One word from me
他完蛋了
and he's finished.
我们必须帮助他
We've gotta do something.
你还认为我们应该举报巴西尼？
You still think we should report Basini?
我更喜欢我们自己来惩罚他
I'd prefer that we punish him ourselves.
学校仅仅是开除他 并给他叔叔写封长信
The school would merely expel him and write a long letter to his uncle.
你知道 大意就是这样的：
You know how businesslike that would be.
亲爱的某某先生
"Dear Mr. So-and-so,
您的侄子已经迷失自己 误入歧途
your nephew has lost his head and been led astray.
据此 我们将他归还给您 希望他日后取得成功
We hereby return him to you. All hopes for his success."
等等等等
And so on.
你知道这对他们意味着什么吗？
You think it means anything to them?
那对我们又意味着什么？
And what should it mean to us?
或许对你没有
Well, maybe nothing to you.
你会成为一个律师或者诗人
You're gonna be a lawyer or a poet.
不过我的生活就不同了
But I see my life differently.
我想从中学点东西
I want to learn from this situation.
你想怎么惩罚他？
How do you mean to punish him?
惩罚不用太多
Is not so much about punishment.
我对他另有打算
I've got something else in mind for him.
我会...
I'll just...
这样吧
les say,
教训教训他
torture him.
别太震惊了
No need to be so startled.
我是个纯粹的禁欲主义者
What I've got in mind is pure asceticism.
为了在这个世界生存
To rise above this world,
你必须消灭所有束缚你的东西
you must kill off everything that enslaves you to it.
比如 同情心
Feelings, for example.
当我让巴西尼做苦差事时 我会同情他
When I take Basini to task, I'll surely feel pity.
不过那是不适当的 因为巴西尼什么也不是
But thas inappropriate, because Basini doesn't matter.
同情他不值得
Somebody who does the things he does isn't worth it.
因此 怜悯是种无意义的感觉
So pity in this case is a completely senseless emotion.
如果你愿意的话 那是对生命力的浪费
A waste of life force, if you will.
我要消灭我内心这些多余的感情
I intend to kill off all these superfluous emotions in me.
听着 你认为巴西尼怎么样？
Listen, what do you think of Basini?
我该怎么说呢？
What am I supposed to say?
他是个恶心的家伙
He's a foul creature.
难道不是吗？非常恶心
Isn't he indeed? Very foul.
你一直把事情想得太复杂了
You always get mixed up in crazy things.
根本不是 如果是 那又怎样呢？
Not at all. And what if I do?
什么东西你都必须尝试一下
You gotta try everything once.
如果他真的那么卑鄙...
And if he's really that despicable... -
叫他今晚到顶楼来
Tell him to come to the attic tonight.
你是说那个房间？
You mean the room?
不 不是 顶楼
No, not yet. The attic.
好吧 我们可以边走边谈吗？
All right. Shall we walk a little more?
好吧 不过我相信特尔勒斯还有事
Yeah. But I'm sure Toerless has things to do.
你们在这啊
Ah, there you are.
站那别动
Stay right there.
我们决定在这惩罚你
We've decided to sit in judgment over you.
控诉如下：
The charges are as follows:
非法闯入罪
You've committed a break-in.
偷窃罪
You've stolen money.
一意孤行 违背我们的希望
You've acted on your own, against our express wishes.
意图挑唆我们与他人的关系
You've attempted to set us against each other.
不经我的同意 代替雷廷劳动
You went over my head and placed yourself in Reiting's service.
你有什么为自己辨解的？ -求你们了 我...
What do you have to say for yourself? - Please, I... -
把手放下
Put your hand down.
放松点
Relax.
你难道不知羞耻吗？
Aren't you ashamed?
回答他！
Answer him!
拒绝回答？
You refuse?
怎么啦？
Whas wrong?
你在哭？
Are you crying?
你觉得伤心？
Are you unhappy?
快点 笑一个
Come on, smile.
不笑是吧？
You won't, huh?
那我们就教你怎么哭！
Then we'll give you a reason to cry!
放开我！
Let me go!
把灯熄掉 外面可以看到的
Put the light out. They'll see it outside.
你怎么啦？
Whas wrong with you?
那不像是一只风眼吗？
Isn't that like an eye?
你在拿我们做诗？
You getting poetic on us?
不 那像是一个奇怪的世界中的风眼吗？
No, but isn't it like an eye into some strange world?
胡说八道
Pure nonsense.
跪下！
Kneel!
你以为你可以跑得掉？
You thought you'd get away with everything.
你以为我会帮你？
You thought I'd help you.
那你就错了
You were wrong.
求你们了 我受不了了 看在上帝的份上吧！
Please, I couldn't help it. For Goďs sake!
安静！
Silence!
我们知道你的借口
We've had it with your excuses.
我们知道你是什么货色
We now know just what sort of person you are,
所以我们才这样做
and we intend to act accordingly.
现在 说...
Now say...
“我是贼”
"I am a thief."
你聋了？
Are you deaf?
说你是贼！
Say you're a thief!
我是贼
I'm a thief.
还算聪明 小子
That was smart of you, kid.
现在说 我是畜生
And now say, "I'm an animal.
偷窃的畜生
A thieving animal.
偷你们东西的畜生
Your thieving animal."
我是畜生 偷窃的畜生 偷你们东西的畜生
I'm an animal, a thieving animal, your thieving animal.
真是令人厌恶 -放这个小动物走
- Thas disgusting. - Let the animal go.
把它给我
Give it to me.
妈的！
Damn it!
我一定病了 疯了
"I must be sick, insane.
为什么其他人会认为正常
Why else would things that others find normal
而我却感到恶心？
disgust me?"
当心！ -下次招子放亮点 笨蛋！
- Watch it! - Open your eyes next time, you ass!
你还在这做什么啊？ 你不想走吗？
What are you still doing here? Aren't you leaving?
不是的 只是还要呆几天
No. Is not worth it for just a few days.
我们只是去斯腾博格家
We're only going to Sternberg's.
他邀请我们去他叔叔的工厂 他想好好陪我们玩玩
He invited us to his uncle's estate. Wants to get in good with us.
你在写什么 书吗？
What are you writing, a book?
秘密？
Secrets?
看吧 不过你看不懂的
Go ahead, but you won't understand it.
嘿 他是在写我们呢 听这段
Hey, he's writing about us. Listen to this.
当我冷静地观察事物时 巴西尼的偷窃微不足道的错误
"When I observe things dispassionately, Basini's theft is a trivial transgression.
而雷廷和贝尼博格惩罚他的方式
The way Reiting and Beineberg punish him
在学生之中是残忍的
is customary cruelty among schoolboys.
但是那根本不能解释出来
But that doesn't explain it all.
这冷静的态度是不够的
This sober stance isn't enough.
在我眼前突然出现了令人混乱的深渊
A dizzying abyss suddenly opens before me."
你觉得怎样？ 完全是垃圾！
What do you think of that? - Complete rubbish!
你想怎样写是你的事情 但是不要写上我们的名字
You can write what you want, but kindly leave our names out of it.
走吧 车子在等
Come on! The car's waiting.
同时 不要太让人讨厌了
In the meantime, don't get too bored.
去看伯兹纳 并代我们问好
Go see Bozena and send our regards.
特尔勒斯 你不回家吗？
Toerless, aren't you going home?
是的 教授
No, Professor.
怎么了？
Whas going on?
到房间来 我有话跟你说
Come to the room. I have to talk to you.
你在干嘛？
What are you doing?
我什么怎样的 把农服穿上
I'm not gonna do anything. Put that back on.
坐下
Sit down.
你干嘛脱衣服？
Why did you start undressing?
我以为 你以为什么？
- I thought... - - You thought what?
别的人一样 什么别的人？
- The others. - What others?
贝尼博格跟雷廷
Beineberg and Reiting.
他们怎么了？ 他们做了什么？
What about them? What did they do?
你必须要告诉我
You have to tell me everything.
虽然别的人已经告诉我了
Even though the others already told me.
哦？你会做吗？
Well? Are you gonna do it?
不要让我那样做
Please don't make me do that.
或是这是你折磨我的特别方法？
Or is this your own special way of torturing me?
我不会折磨你
I don't intend to torture you.
我只是想你把整个的事情告诉我
I just want you to tell me the whole truth for your own sake.
但是我没做什么值得可以说的
But I've done nothing particularly worth telling about!
你真是一个可悲的懦夫！
You're a pathetic coward!
请不要这样说
Please don't say that.
还说不是懦夫？
You see what a coward you are?
你根本就是
You take it all.
他们说只要我顺从 他们就会原谅我
They say if I'm obedient, they'll eventually forgive me.
那两个？
Those two?
大家都是
Everyone.
他们怎么保证？
How can they promise that?
我也卷入进来了
I'm involved in this too.
他们说他们会处理的
They said they'd take care of it.
他们说了一些具体的方法吗？
Did they say anything more specific about how they'd do that?
没有 只是说会处理好
No, just that they'd take care of it.
他们怎样对你的？ 谁？
- What do they do with you? - Who?
他对我非常友好
He's very friendly with me.
他经常叫我跟他读一些罗马帝王的事情
He usually has me read him something about Rome and its emperors,
或是东帝汶 或是恐怖伊凡
or Timor Leng, or Ivan the Terrible.
都是那些血腥的故事
All those bloody stories.
之后他就经常打我 什么之后？
Then he usually beats me afterwards. - After what?
哦 我知道了
Oh, I see.
贝尼博格也是吗？
And Beineberg?
他很令人讨厌 你不觉得他很臭吗？
He's repulsive. Don't you think his breath reeks?
冷静点
Be quiet.
把他做的事情告诉我？
Tell me, what does he do?
跟雷廷一样 只是方法不同
Same as Reiting, only in another way.
他鼓吹我灵魂很棒
He preaches to me at length about my soul.
他叫我坐下来盯着玻璃看
He has me sit down and stare at a glass
直到我累了为止
until I'm sluggish and tired.
然后我就趴在地上 就像狗一样大叫
Then I have to get on the ground and howl like a dog.
为什么？
What for?
我不知道
I have no idea.
你就让他们这样为所欲为吗？
And you let them do all that to you?
你就什么都听他的吗？
You do what they tell you?
我还能怎样做？
What else can I do?
我想做一个正派的人 然后安静的离开
I want to be a decent person again and be left in peace.
之前发生什么了 那对你没关吗？
And what happened before doesn't matter to you?
我什么都不能做
I can't do anything about that.
仔细听好
Listen to me carefully.
你怎么可以去偷了？
How could you steal like that?
我真的需要钱
I really needed the money.
我欠了雷廷的钱 他又不给我时间
I owed Reiting money, and he wouldn't give me more time.
没有人借钱给我
Nobody would loan me... -
不 我不是说那个
No, thas not what I meant.
我是说 你怎么可以那样做？
I meant, how could you do that?
你什么感觉？ 你内心是怎样想的？
How did you feel? What went on inside you?
什么都没有
Nothing at all.
我什么感觉都没有
I didn't feel anything.
我什么都没有想
I didn't think about anything.
只是发生了而已
It just simply happened.
那第一次跟雷廷做那个了？
And the first time with Reiting?
那羞辱性的事情 你太胆小了而不敢拒绝
The humiliating service you were too cowardly to refuse.
你内心感觉不到痛苦吗？
Didn't you feel torn apart inside?
不会震惊吗？
Some indefinable shock,
就像是内心有不可思议的改变一样？
as if some unspeakable change had taken place inside you?
我不理解
I don't understand you.
当他们向你吐唾沫 让你哭 让你受辱！
When they spit on you, make you whimper and eat dirt!
你内心是怎样想的？
What happens inside you then?
你内心不难受吗？
Doesn't the image you have of yourself shatter?
不难受吗？
Doesn't it shatter?
你让我很难受 我不知道你想要的
You're tormenting me. I don't know what you want.
这没有什么好解释的 那发生太快了
There's nothing to explain. It all happens in a second.
发生之后也没有什么
Nothing else happens after that.
要是你 你也会这样的
You'd do exactly the same in my place.
嘿 匈牙利人
Hey, Hungarian.
斯腾博格有堂弟了
Sternberg's got a great cousin.
嗨 特尔勒斯.伯兹纳怎样？
Hi, Toerless. How's Bozena?
我没有去
I didn't even go.
她不让你进去？
Wouldn't she let you in?
半个克朗 我把这虫子吞进去
I'll swallow this worm for half a krone.
你吞吧
You're on.
那个家伙
The nerve of that guy.
他真的认为他无罪了吗？
Does he really think he's in the clear?
我们要对巴西尼做些事情
We've got to do something about Basini.
他以前都很服从我们 他再也不会介意的
He's used to having to obey us. He doesn't mind it anymore.
他变得又乖又听话 像个佣人一样
He's getting chummy and fresh, like a servant.
是时候更进一步了 你同意吗？
Is time to take things a step further. You agree?
我不知道你想什么
I don't know what you have in mind yet.
我们已经很羞辱他了
We've got to humiliate him further.
我要看看我们可以走多远
I'd like to see how far we can go.
做另外一件事情怎样
How to do it is another matter.
但是我有几个主意
But I just might have a couple ideas.
举个例子
For example,
我们可以把他绑在床上鞭打他
we could tie him to a bed and whip him.
然后让他唱圣歌
And then make him sing psalms of thanks.
听他那歌声 肯定是非常有趣
It would be interesting to hear the expression in his singing,
一切恐惧都隐藏起来
every note shrouded in fear.
但是我先要做件别的事情
But there's something else I have in mind for him first.
雷廷 你是否是太不会说话了 你掌握不了什么更高深的东西
Reiting, you may leave if you're too dumb to grasp something profound.
你还记得我们那次想象的民族记的谈话？
You recall our conversation about imaginary numbers?
我们需要找到一个方法 去克服那些不充分的理由
We needed to find a way to overcome the inadequacy of reason.
尽管有缺点跟短处 这个可以把一切放在一起...
This force that keeps logic together despite its gaps and shortcomings...
我把它叫做灵魂
I call the soul.
我通过催眠把巴西尼的...
I'd like to lure this soul out of Basini...
灵魂引出来
by hypnotizing him.
因为你卑鄙的行为 你是跟你的灵魂失去联系了
Because of your unworthy conduct, you've lost touch with your soul.
你可以再次找到它
You're about to find it again.
要是你按着我的指示做
If you follow my instructions exactly,
是不会伤害你的
no harm will come to you.
但是要是你反对的话...
But annoy me with the slightest objection...
我就毙了你
and I'll shoot you down.
拿着这个钟摆
Take this pendulum.
拿稳了
Hold your hand steady.
仔细看着这钥匙
Observe the key carefully,
想象它在摆动
and imagine is swinging in a circle.
就看着钥匙
Look only at the key.
认真看着
Concentrate on the key.
想象它在摆动
Imagine it making a circle.
你想要制止它
You try to stop it.
但是你制止不了
But you don't succeed.
钥匙越...
The key swings
来越快
faster and faster
你根本就制止不了
with no help from you.
但是我的意志除外
By my will alone.
看我对你影响多大？
See how strong my influence is over you?
现在坐下
Now sit down.
按我说的做
Do exactly as I say.
现在什么都不要想
Empty your mind of all thought.
盯着这灯...
Stare at this little light...
不要眨眼
and don't blink.
把眼睛尽量睁大
Keep your eyes as wide open as you can.
什么都不要想
Don't think about anything.
专心致志
Focus all your attention inwards.
现在你的手臂很重
Your arms are getting heavy.
脚也越来越重
Your legs are getting heavy.
你整个身体都变得很重
Your entire body is getting heavy.
你的眼皮越来越沉
Your eyelids are getting heavier and heavier.
就像灌铅一样
As heavy as lead.
你视觉开始模糊
Your vision's growing dim.
你的眼睛流泪了
Your eyes are watering.
你的意识开始模糊
Your thoughts are slowing down.
越来越模糊
Slower and slower.
审视你的内心
Stare inside yourself
直到你找到...
until you find the point
你自己内心可以...
where you feel only your inner self...
感到自由快乐的那个点
free of all thought and sensation.
现在你完全麻木了
You are now completely numb.
你的身体再也感觉不到疼痛
Your body no longer feels pain.
看到了吗？
You see?
他现在昏迷了
He's in a trance.
你的灵魂去了
Your soul has departed
到了另一个地方
for its next existence.
已经不再受自然规律的限制
Is no longer shackled by nature's laws,
不再存在肉体内
no longer condemned to inhabit a fleshly body.
跟着蜡烛
Follow the candle.
慢慢来
Very slowly.
再过来
Further.
你的想法还是那样
When your mind stands still,
你的肌肉可以让你过去
your muscles will let go too.
你的身体可以飘忽在空中
Your empty body may float through space.
再过来
Lean forward.
再过来
Further.
再过来
Further still.
该死！
Damn it!
猪 你都是装的！
Swine! You were only pretending!
等等！我会让你受到惩罚！
Just wait! I'll show you!
放我走！
Let me go!
放我走！
Let me go!
我来告诉你！
I'll tell on you!
堵住他的嘴巴
Cover his mouth.
特尔勒斯 我把一切都告诉你！
Toerless, I want to confess everything!
特尔勒斯 救救我！
Toerless, help me!
不要走！
Don't go!
救命！
Help!
特尔勒斯 你一定要救我
Toerless, you've gotta help me.
我再也忍受不了了
I can't take any more.
他们会把我给折磨死的
They'll torture me to death!
我不能帮你
I can't help you.
你之前都对我很好的
You were nice to me a while ago.
不要那样说 那不是我
Don't speak of that. That wasn't me.
我再也受不了了！
I can't take it anymore!
你觉得你在受苦 所以你想逃脱 是吗？
You feel you're suffering and want to escape, right?
你想怎样做就怎样做
Do whatever you like.
但是你看他们对我所做的
But look what they did to me!
这里怎么了？
Whas going on here?
你跟巴西尼秘密约会吗？
Are you meeting with Basini in secret?
他叫我保护他
He asked me to protect him.
他真是选对人了 我也是
- He picked the right person! - And I might have, too.
但是这整个事情让我恶心
But this whole thing bores me.
我们会教你做秘密联合
We'll teach you to make secret alliances.
你的保护天使特尔勒斯 也会来折磨你的
Your guardian angel Toerless will have his fun with you too.
不 雷廷 我不会的
No, Reiting, I won't.
只是像那样？ 是的 只是那样
- Just like that? - Yeah, just like that.
我之前在寻找一些东西
I was looking for something before.
第二见解 嗯？
Second sight, eh?
是的 现在我所看到的只是野蛮
Yes. And now all I see is brutality.
你应该要看巴西尼吃脏东西 你就完全不会这样想
You should see Basini eat dirt. You'd get a real kick out of it.
我没有兴趣 但是你以前有呀
- I'm not interested. - But you used to be.
因为巴西尼的情况让我觉得是个秘密
Because Basini's condition was a mystery to me.
现在了？ 没有什么神秘可言
- And now? - There's no mystery there.
事情发生了 任何事情都有可能
Things just happen. Anything's possible.
没有什么邪恶世界跟好世界之分
There's not an evil world and a good world.
它们都存在同一个世界
They exist together in the same world.
事情就是这样
Thas the whole truth.
伟大的发现 是的 非常有趣
- Brilliant discovery! - Sure, make fun of it!
但是你没有良知 非常残忍！
But you're senseless, nauseating brutes!
说话注意点！
Hold your tongue!
肮脏 愚蠢
Dirty, thoughtless
并且恶心！
and disgusting!
我不许你在巴西尼面前叫我们的名字！
I forbid you to call us names in front of Basini!
不许？
Forbid?
你觉得我会在巴西尼前面打你？
You think I'm gonna fight you over Basini?
我听说你说我们坏话
I hear you've been bad-mouthing us,
并且是在巴西尼前面
and in front of Basini too.
我们原谅你这次失误 下不为例
We'll forgive you this misstep just this once.
明天晚上到房间来
Come to the room tomorrow night.
我们要惩罚巴西尼 然后把他交给班上处理
We'll punish Basini and then hand him over to the class.
随你们 但是你要去
- Do whatever you like. - But you'll be there.
不
No.
为什么不？
Why not?
你以为我们不知道原因吗？
You think we don't know why?
以为我们不知道你跟巴西尼的事情？
Think we don't know how involved you've gotten with Basini?
没有你们多
No more than you.
现在已经足够了
Thas enough now.
要是你明天不来 我们就告诉大家 你是巴西尼的同谋
If you don't show up tomorrow, we'll tell everyone you're Basini's accomplice.
知道吗？
Understand?
巴西尼 他们明天把你交给班上
Basini, they're gonna turn you over to the class.
在他们打你之前 明天报告给校长
Report it to the headmaster tomorrow before they beat you to a pulp.
我们有信给你
We've got a letter for you.
一个惊喜
A nice surprise.
给安塞姆.范.巴西尼先生
To Mr. Anselm von Basini,
尤根王子寄宿学校
Prince Eugen Boarding School.
阿加莎.范.巴西尼夫人寄
From Mrs. Agatha von Basini.
最亲爱的妈妈
Mommy dearest.
读
Read it.
“我亲爱的儿子”
"My dear son."
可怜的家伙
The poor little thing.
你知道我作为一个寡妇 我只有那么一点收入...
"You know that with the little money I receive as a widow... - "
我养不起情人！
I can't afford a lover!
“我只能给你一点点”
"I have only a little left for you."
把信给我！
Give me that letter!
住手！
Stop it!
让我过去！
Let me through!
这真是疯了！！
This is crazy!
你想要保护他吗？ 让我过去！
- You wanna protect him? - Let me through!
你加入他吗？
Did you join in his obscenities?
你是他的一个情人吗？
Are you one of his lovers?
放开我！
Let me go!
放开我！
Let me go!
不要！放我走！
No! Let me go!
放我走！
Let me go!
我受不了了 住手！
I can't take it! Stop!
挂起他来 挂在那环上！
- Hang him! - Up on the rings!
放我走！
Les go!
怎么了？
Whas going on?
开门！
Open up!
放低点摇他！
Swing him lower!
是的 低点
Yeah, lower.
开门！
Open up!
开门！
Open up!
天呀 是巴西尼！
My God, is Basini!
那真是太残忍了
Thas downright diabolical.
真是不可恩议
Is unbelievable.
门在这
This is the door.
很简单 我们告诉老师说 我们出于同情没有告发巴西尼
Is simple. We tell the teachers we didn't report Basini out of pity.
他嘲笑我们对他所做的
He mocked all our efforts to help him.
是的 我们都可以证明这点
Yeah, we can all attest to that.
他是无药可救
He was incorrigible and stubborn.
我们说他那是为了还钱
We'll say he kept getting into debt.
那钱他是还不清的
Which he could never pay back.
他无耻的利用我们的好意
He shamelessly exploited our generosity
并且拒绝听从我们的建议
and refused to heed our well-meaning advice.
我们承认我们犯错了
We admit we made a mistake.
但是巴西尼总是 用他那无耻的行为来挑衅我们
But Basini kept provoking us with his shameful conduct.
但是我们的好意换来的却是讥笑
All our well-intentioned attempts to reform him were met with scorn.
我们没有告发他 是因为我们觉得那会对不起他
We didn't report him only because we felt sorry for him.
非常好
Very well.
对于特尔勒斯突然跑开 你没有什么解释吗？
Do you have no explanation for why Toerless suddenly ran away?
我看他最近今天非常紧张
I noticed he'd been extremely nervous the last few days.
他的道德感非常敏感
His extraordinary moral sensitivity
也许这让他感到非常内疚
must have made him feel guilty
因为他从开始就知道这件事情
that, even though he knew about it all from the start,
但是他没有立即报告
he didn't report it immediately.
你有什么打算？
What are your plans?
我过几天会回学校
I'll go back to school for a couple of days.
你逃学 老师不会惩罚你吗？
Won't the teachers punish you for running away?
我不在乎 我已经想清楚了
I don't care. I'm through with school.
我会叫我父母来接我回家
I'll ask my parents to take me back home.
多少？ 三个铜币
- How much? - Three groschen.
跟我来
Come with me.
难以置信
Unbelievable.
特尔勒斯 你可以告诉我们...
Can you tell us, Toerless,
你突然跑开的原因吗？
the reasons that led you to run away so suddenly?
我们已经知道这些事情了
We already know these things.
但是把你包庇巴西尼的原因告诉我们
But tell us what led you to conceal Basini's crime.
我不知道 老师
I don't know, sir.
当我刚听到的时候 我觉得很残忍
When I first heard of it, it seemed outrageous.
在一方面 我告诉我自己要向你禀报
On the one hand, I told myself I should report him to you.
你是应该禀报的
And so you should have.
在另外一方面 我对惩罚没有兴趣
On the other hand, I wasn't interested in punishment.
我完全从另外一个角度来看这个
I saw it from an entirely different point of view.
我每次都被头昏眼花所征服 我...
I was overcome by dizziness each time I... -
请你说清楚点 特尔勒斯
You must express yourself more clearly, Toerless.
比如 想象民族记...
For example, imaginary numbers... -
允许我来解释几句
Allow me to shed some light on this obscure reference.
特尔勒斯以前来问过我...
Young Toerless came to ask me
一定的数学原理的事情
about certain fundamentals of mathematics,
也包括相信民族记
including imaginary numbers,
那从未经过训练的意识 来说是完全不同的
which are truly difficult for the untrained mind.
是的 我说过那对我来说好像是...
Yes, I said it seemed to me
我们不能单独的接触到那逻辑的底部
that we couldn't get to the bottom of that through logic alone.
我们需要另外一个确定的事情
That we needed another certainty, an inner certainty.
我从巴西尼的事情里想到了这个
And I felt the same way about the Basini matter.
所以你感觉偏离科学 并且是走向道德 神圣等方面？
So you feel drawn away from science and towards moral, even divine, aspects?
特尔勒斯 你老师说的是真的吗？
Toerless, is what the reverend says true?
就像你说的 你是想去寻找...
Do you have a tendency to seek... - as you seem to be saying... -
一个宗教背景的东西吗？
a religious background to things?
不 不是那样的
No, thas not it either.
那赶快告诉我们是怎样！
Then for Goďs sake tell us in plain words what it was!
我们这里不是哲学辨论！
We can't get into philosophical debates here!
要是你那样想 我也没有办法
I can't help it if is not what you think.
也许我自己都没有搞清楚
Perhaps I haven't learned enough to express myself clearly,
但是我会努力解释的
but I'll attempt to describe it.
巴西尼跟别人一样是一个学生
Basini was a student like any other.
一个正常的人
A perfectly normal person.
他突然困惑了
Suddenly he stumbled.
在羞辱折磨等前...
I'd thought of these things before... -
我已经想过这些...
humiliation and degradation... -
但是我从来都没有经历过
but I'd never experienced them.
但是这发生在巴西尼身上了
But it happened to Basini.
我必须要承认人在开始 的时候是没有好坏之分的...
I had to admit it was possible
这是可能的
that man wasn't created good or bad once and for all.
我们都在不停的变化着
We all keep changing ceaselessly.
我们只是因为我们的优点而存在
We exist only by virtue of our actions.
但是要是我们允许我们...
But if we allow ourselves to change
变成受折磨的人或是畜生
to where we become torturers or sacrificial animals,
那一切都死活可能的
then anything is possible.
就算是最可怕的事情也是可能的
Then even the most horrific things become simply possible.
那样在好坏之间就没有界限了
Then there's no line between good and evil,
完全融合在一起了
and both merge imperceptibly.
那正常人也会做可怕的事情
Then perfectly normal people can do terrible things.
唯一的问题是“有多大可能性？”
The only question then was, "How is this possible?"
为了观察这个 我没有禀告
To observe this, I let these things go unreported.
我想知道这有多大的可能性
I wanted to know how it was possible.
当一个人羞辱他自己或是突然变...
What happens when a person humiliates himself
残忍 那会发生什么事情？
or suddenly turns cruel?
我以前以为这将意味着世界末日
I used to think it would mean the end of the world.
现在我知道不是那样
Now I know differently.
那些看起来那么不可恩议 那么遥不可及的事情...
What seems so horrific, so incomprehensible from afar,
就这么简单的发生了
simply happens.
平静而自然
Quietly and naturally.
因此人必须要不断的警惕
Therefore one must be continually on guard.
这就是我所学到的
Thas what I've learned.
这年轻人有这样的想法
This young man is under such emotional strain
那这个学校再也不适合他了
that this school is no longer the place for him.
他的智力必须要仔细观察
His intellectual nourishment must be monitored more carefully
要比我们这里更仔细
than we can do here.
我会写封信给他父亲
I'll send his father a letter to that effect.
一个特别的人
A peculiar person.
是吗？
You think?
怎么了 托马斯？
Whas wrong, Thomas?
没什么 妈妈
Nothing, Mom.
我只是在想一些事情
I was just thinking about something.